not grokking outer joins...

i'm trying to wrap outer joins around my cerebellum:

    CUST:
        id serial
        name varchar(30)
    ITEM:
        cust integer references cust (id)
        data varchar(30)
    INFO:
        cust integer references cust (id)
        stuff text

for my query i'd like, for every customer, to have
item.* show up if it exists, and info.* show up
if it exists...

    select
        CUST.name,
        ITEM.data,
        INFO.stuff
    from
        CUST left join ITEM on (CUST.id=ITEM.cust),
        CUST left join INFO on (CUST.id=INFO.cust)
    .... not!

or does this need some subselect magic?

and (separate question) is there a way to be sure that ONE or the
OTHER or BOTH have joinable data, but don't show CUST if neither
ITEM nor INFO has a match?

    foreach CUST
        if ITEM matches
            show record
        elsif INFO matches
            show record
        else -- neither matches
            dont show squat, not even from cust
        end if
    end foreach

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