Re: [HACKERS] When is 7.0 going Beta?

> 
> I personally agree with Jan on this...I think most users have found that
> our releases have been "worth the wait", and altho we're askign them to
> wait a little bit longer then normal, we *are* addressing problems with he
> current release by putting out 6.5.x's as required, *and* we are highly
> visible.
> 
> unlike some projects out there (gcc's "past" coming to mind), we have a
> highly active mailing list where developers are constantly putting out,
> and discussing, news ideas...the end user sees this, and with what is on
> the todo list, 7.0 will be *more* worth the wait then our past
> releases...7.0 is looking to be our *biggest* release yet, a little more
> time will be required on this one...

OK, seeing as everyone disagrees with me...

Other than WAL, what else is half-completed and installed?
       Foreign Keys    - Jan       WAL             - Vadim       Function args   - Tom       Date/Time types - Thomas
   Optimizer       - Tom
 
       Outer Joins     - Thomas?       Long Tuples     - ?

I guess I am wondering, other than WAL, what makes our current state
any worse than the time before previous beta cycles

I am very hesitant about our "one big release" thing coming?  If we wait
for everything to get done, we would never have a release.

The more items in a release, the longer the beta cycle.  If you wait too
long, you are fixing code you wrote 6 months ago, and that makes it very
hard.  Smaller releases where the code is relatively fresh and the
additional features minimal are cleaner, faster betas.

The concern about a release sapping our energy when we should be adding
code is valid, but this delays how soon users can use the items we
_have_ finished.

Our 6.5.* subreleases are actually allowing us to take longer between
releases because we don't have to fix that _major_ bug a new release. 
We fix it in the subrelease.

Obviously, no one agrees with me, so it looks like May.

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