Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types
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Pavel Stehule
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Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types
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Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types (Robert Haas)
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RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types James Pye <lists@jwp.name>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types James Pye <lists@jwp.name>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Sam Mason <sam@samason.me.uk>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types daveg <daveg@sonic.net>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types "David E. Wheeler" <david@kineticode.com>
Re: RfD: more powerful "any" types Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
2009/9/10 Robert Haas : > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote: >>> Really, I think we need a type system that doesn't try to represent >>> every type as a 32-bit integer. Right now, for example, there's no >>> reasonable way to write a function that takes another function as an >>> argument. What we need is a system where base types are represented >>> by an OID, but derived types (list and functional types) are built up >>> using type constructors that take other types as arguments. So you >>> could have a types like list(integer) or list(anyelement) or >>> function(integer,bool) [meaning either taking an integer and returning >>> a bool, or the other way around, depending on your notational >>> preference]. Then you can have functions with complex types like: >>> >>> maplist : function(anyelement,anyelement2,function(list(anyelement),list(anyelement2))) >>> >>> This would have the fringe benefit of eliminating types like anyarray >>> (which is just list(anyelement)) and the need to list every type twice >>> in pg_type, once for the base type and once for the derived array >>> type. >> >> it would be nice, but probably it could significant increase parsing >> query time. And this is +/- equal to what my transformationHook does. > > I can't believe that this is even close to being correct. > Transformationhook is a cheap syntax hack (sorry, but it is). It's > not going to solve the problem of people who want anyelement and > anyelement2, nor will it solve the problem of people who want to pass > functions as arguments or treat them as first-class objects. nobody written some better code. Just implement some too simple like Oracle's decode function, and then talk about this topic. I like to see this discus, but who looked on FuncnameGetCandidates functions, and who knows, what is really possible. regards Pavel > > The major downside of such a system is that every place where we now > count on being able to store a type in a fixed-size field would need > to be touched. I don't believe that the overall slowdown in parsing > time would be significant, but I do think it would be a massive, > highly invasive, highly destabilizing patch. For the level of pain > involved, there might be better uses of our time, which is not to say > that I'd be in favor of rejecting such a patch out of hand if someone > felt called to develop it (Tom might, though). > > ...Robert >
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