Re: better atomics - v0.5
От | Tom Lane |
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Тема | Re: better atomics - v0.5 |
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Msg-id | 12903.1404150352@sss.pgh.pa.us обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: better atomics - v0.5 (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>) |
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Re: better atomics - v0.5
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes: > I'm personally not convinced that we're approaching this topic in the > right way. I'm not convinced that it's at all reasonable to try to > emulate atomics on platforms that don't have them. I would punt the > problem into the next layer and force things like lwlock.c to have > fallback implementations at that level that don't require atomics, and > remove those fallback implementations if and when we move the > goalposts so that all supported platforms must have working atomics > implementations. People who write code that uses atomics are not > likely to think about how those algorithms will actually perform when > those atomics are merely emulated, and I suspect that means that in > practice platforms that have only emulated atomics are going to > regress significantly vs. the status quo today. I think this is a valid objection, and I for one am not prepared to say that we no longer care about platforms that don't have atomic ops (especially not if it's not a *very small* set of atomic ops). Also, just because a platform claims to have atomic ops doesn't mean that those ops perform well. If there's a kernel trap involved, they don't, at least not for our purposes. We're only going to be bothering with installing atomic-op code in places that are contention bottlenecks for us already, so we are not going to be happy with the results for any atomic-op implementation that's not industrial strength. This is one reason why I'm extremely suspicious of depending on gcc's intrinsics for this; that will not make the issue go away, only make it beyond our power to control. regards, tom lane
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