Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code

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Simon Riggs
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code
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Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Grzegorz Jaskiewicz <gj@pointblue.com.pl>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 17:07 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 09:27 -0500, Aidan Van Dyk wrote:
> > 
> >> But "catchup" *has* to be *done* before PostgreSQL can enter "sync rep".
> > 
> > Not true. Please reread the thread where Heikki questions that and I
> > reply. This was Fujii-san's idea, which I now agree with.
> 
> I think the confusion here is about what exactly "sync rep" means in 
> this situation. It's true that you can start streaming the WAL before 
> the standby has fully caught up. 

Yep.

> But from the client's point of view, 
> there's not much point in streaming the log *synchronously* and making 
> the client to wait for the acknowledment from the standby, if the 
> acknowledgment from the standby that WAL has be streamed up to point X, 
> doesn't actually guarantee that the slave can recover all the way to 
> that point.

I disagree. This morning I showed it was possible, given the
synchronisation I outlined.

There is a slight relaxation of that in the current proposal, so you
need to take that up if you see any problem there.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support


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