Re: pl/Ruby, deprecating plPython and Core

On E, 2005-08-15 at 10:30 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have negotiated with the author of pl/Ruby to release plRuby under the 
> PostgreSQL license.

Good!

>  The reason I did this is the following:
> 
> 1. I felt we needed a truly OO language in core.
> 2. plPython isn't really moving forward and has the whole 
> trusted/untrusted issue.

Is there a sound reason to believe that pl/Ruby does not have the
trusted/untrusted issue ?

I mean it took some time for pl/python to reveal that it can't be run as
a trusted language.

> Now anyone who knows me, knows that I love Python which means this is 
> not a language argument as much as a functionality argument.
> 
> Ruby for good or bad is gaining a large following and has become a very 
> active language in a short period of time. It can also be trusted and 
> untrusted.

Both of these things could be said about Python when it was about the
same age Ruby is now.

> I believe that unless plPython can either be fixed 

Fixed how ?

> or is going to continue to move forward as a pl language 

Why is "movin forward" needed ?

> that we should consider deprecating it and even removing it in 8.2 or 8.3.

This argument reminds me of the "let's rewrite postgresql in C++"
proposal that comes up every few months.

> As far as a PL language plruby seems to have some really good stuff. 
> Here is the docs:
> 
> http://moulon.inra.fr/ruby/plruby.html
> 
> What does everybody think?

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Hannu Krosing <hannu@skype.net>