Re: storing an explicit nonce

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: storing an explicit nonce
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Re: Key management with tests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: Key management with tests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Key management with tests Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Key management with tests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Key management with tests Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 02:25:21PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> One question here is whether we're comfortable saying that the nonce
> is entirely constant. I wasn't sure about that. It seems possible to
> me that different encryption algorithms might want nonces of different
> sizes, either now or in the future. I am not a cryptographer, but that
> seemed like a bit of a limiting assumption. So Bharath and I decided
> to make the POC cater to a fully variable-size nonce rather than
> zero-or-some-constant. However, if the consensus is that
> zero-or-some-constant is better, fair enough! The patch can certainly
> be adjusted to cater to work that way.

A 16-byte nonce is sufficient for AES and I doubt we will need anything
stronger than AES256 anytime soon.  Making the nonce variable length
seems it is just adding complexity for little purpose. 

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