Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks)
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Joshua D. Drake
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks)
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51B39390.3040000@commandprompt.com
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Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) (Andres Freund)
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Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) "MauMau" <maumau307@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Christian Ullrich <chris@chrullrich.net>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Hard limit on WAL space used (because PANIC sucks) Jaime Casanova <jaime@2ndquadrant.com>
On 06/08/2013 11:27 AM, Andres Freund wrote: > > On 2013-06-08 11:15:40 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> To me, a more pragmatic approach makes sense. Obviously having some kind of >> code that checks the space makes sense but I don't know that it needs to be >> around any operation other than we are creating a segment. What do we care >> why the segment is being created? If we don't have enough room to create the >> segment, the transaction rollsback with some OBVIOUS not OBTUSE error. >> >> Obviously this could cause a ton of transactions to roll back but I think >> keeping the database consistent and rolling back a transaction in case of >> error is exactly what we are supposed to do. > > You know, the PANIC isn't there just because we like to piss of > users. There's actual technical reasons that don't just go away by > judging the PANIC as stupid. Yes I know we aren't trying to piss off users. What I am saying is that it is stupid to the user that it PANICS. I apologize if that came out wrong. > At the points where the XLogInsert()s happens we're in critical sections > out of which we *cannot* ERROR out because we already may have made > modifications that cannot be allowed to be performed > partially/unlogged. That's why we're throwing a PANIC which will force a > cluster wide restart including *NOT* writing any further buffers from > s_b out. > Does this preclude (sorry I don't know this part of the code very well) my suggestion of on log create? JD > Greetings, > > Andres Freund >
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