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Greg Smith
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Re: Spread checkpoint sync
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Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Rob Wultsch <wultsch@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Cédric Villemain <cedric.villemain.debian@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Cédric Villemain <cedric.villemain.debian@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Marti Raudsepp <marti@juffo.org>
ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Simone Aiken <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Simone Aiken <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering "Simone Aiken" <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering "Simone Aiken" <saiken@quietlyCompetent.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering "Simone Aiken" <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering "Simone Aiken" <saiken@quietlyCompetent.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering "Simone Aiken" <saiken@quietlyCompetent.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Simone Aiken <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Nicolas Barbier <nicolas.barbier@gmail.com>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering Simone Aiken <saiken@ulfheim.net>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Cédric Villemain <cedric.villemain.debian@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Spread checkpoint sync Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Robert Haas wrote:
> During each cluster, the system probably slows way down, and then recovers when
> the queue is emptied.  So the TPS improvement isn't at all a uniform
> speedup, but simply relief from the stall that would otherwise result
> from a full queue.
>   

That does seem to be the case here.  
http://www.2ndquadrant.us/pgbench-results/index.htm now has results from 
my a long test series, at two database scales that caused many backend 
fsyncs during earlier tests.  Set #5 is the existing server code, #6 is 
with the patch applied.  There are zero backend fsync calls with the 
patch applied, which isn't surprising given how simple the schema is on 
this test case.  An average of a 14% TPS gain appears at a scale of 500 
and a 8% one at 1000; the attached CSV file summarizes the average 
figures for the archives.  The gains do appear to be from smoothing out 
the dead period that normally occur during the sync phase of the checkpoint.

For example, here are the fastest runs at scale=1000/clients=256 with 
and without the patch:

http://www.2ndquadrant.us/pgbench-results/436/index.html (tps=361)
http://www.2ndquadrant.us/pgbench-results/486/index.html (tps=380)

Here the difference in how much less of a slowdown there is around the 
checkpoint end points is really obvious, and obviously an improvement.  
You can see the same thing to a lesser extent at the other end of the 
scale; here's the fastest runs at scale=500/clients=16:

http://www.2ndquadrant.us/pgbench-results/402/index.html (tps=590)
http://www.2ndquadrant.us/pgbench-results/462/index.html (tps=643)

Where there are still very ugly maximum latency figures here in every 
case, these periods just aren't as wide with the patch in place.

I'm moving onto some brief testing some of the newer kernel behavior 
here, then returning to testing the other checkpoint spreading ideas on 
top of this compation patch, presuming something like it will end up 
being committed first.  I think it's safe to say I can throw away the 
changes to try and alter the fsync absorption code present in what I 
submitted before, as this scheme does a much better job of avoiding that 
problem than those earlier queue alteration ideas.  I'm glad Robert 
grabbed the right one from the pile of ideas I threw out for what else 
might help here.

P.S. Yes, I know I have other review work to do as well.  Starting on 
the rest of that tomorrow.

-- 
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
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,,"Unmodified",,"Compacted Fsync",,,
"scale","clients","tps","max_latency","tps","max_latency","TPS Gain","% Gain"
500,16,557,17963.41,631,17116.31,74,13.3%
500,32,587,25838.8,655,24311.54,68,11.6%
500,64,628,35198.39,727,38040.39,99,15.8%
500,128,621,41001.91,687,48195.77,66,10.6%
500,256,632,49610.39,747,46799.48,115,18.2%
,,,,,,,
1000,16,306,39298.95,321,40826.58,15,4.9%
1000,32,314,40120.35,345,27910.51,31,9.9%
1000,64,334,46244.86,358,45138.1,24,7.2%
1000,128,343,72501.57,372,47125.46,29,8.5%
1000,256,321,80588.63,350,83232.14,29,9.0%
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